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Holy smokes, don't you guys know when you're being played? Drew you in hook, line and sinker!
(You were playing 'em, right Bill?)


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You are a complete joke Hesh, and quite a nasty one at that. The bullyboy of the forum!! Others may let you get away with it. I won't. I'll call you everytime.

Allow me to point out a few home truths (just as Simon did!! ):

I don't have a problem cutting Nut slots with a needle file. I've been doing this since 1977. You may have trouble with it but perhaps that's because you lack the required skill. I think you started in 2007? Some of us have considerably more experience than yourself. The fact that we do things differently is neither here nor there. I have never (as in not once) had one single complaint from one single Player regarding the Nut slots. I guess I must be doing something right. For some rather strange reason you simply cannot accept that the method works if you have the required skill, not that it takes much skill in the first place though!

As for the saddle mill. All I pointed out was that I could (and indeed did) execute it with a plough plane and scratch stock. What's the big deal with having to insert end pieces? Done well it's invisible for practical purposes. You do know that you insert wood pieces into the bridge yourself?
Besides, what makes you think that you are the arbiter of good practice? i don't think you have been at this long enough to start becoming a world authority on what can or cannot be done.

Rubbed Joints: This is rather interesting. I asked you during that particular thread if you had ever tried it. You didn't answer. I can only assume that you have not. I think you stated that the Guitar factories did not carry out the practice. Perhaps you worship at the alter of the factories but I don't.
But wait. I gave you a real life example of an instrument (the Baroque Lute) that has steel string tension and that is often glued with a rubbed joint. I've done it myself, a number of times. Why do you fail to acknowledge that? I think I know the answer. You have absolutely zero experience of that particular instrument and therefore dismissed it. In fact you made a rather poor comment about early plucked instruments. A rather scandalous comment given the history of the making of stringed musical instruments. It showed a distinct lack of respect for the craft. Hardly befitting of a professional luthier.

Frets. Again, Hesh way or no way. You've actually no idea how I do my frets and fretboard. You made a very false assumption (you do that a lot) that the fret rocker was my only method of checking the frets. Wrong, yet again Hesh!! It's become such an addiction for you. These attacks on other people's methods. Methods that have worked for me (and others) for decades.


Finally. Why is it always yourself that is involved in these altercations? I mean it's quite possible that it's your adversarial style and your distinct lack of appreciation of how others do things differently. Perhaps that is the root cause. Seriously, picking someone out because they used the word 'Kerfing'!. It's language! That's how it works, it changes, it evolves. That's how new words are formed. Besides, I have much more difficulty understanding your rather lengthy verbose posts than the simple word 'kerfing'. If words matter Hesh how come your posts are ridden with serious grammatical errors, such that it's often difficult to ascertain their true meaning?

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Bryan Bear PMoMC

Take care of your feet, and your feet will take care of you.

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This is how we do it, north of the border.



Do NOT mess with us!


Alex

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To join in with my friend Alex, and as another conflict-averse Canuck , I'd like to remind everyone here that the point is not to "win", but to share information.

Thank you both for doing so, and can we stop now?

Steve

What's the refrain of the song that starts with " The snow glows white on the mountain tonight..."

And to get back O.T. and add to the superfluous solutions let's not forget Bondo! Fill them thar kerflings with "tone Bondo snot" and get all the perceived advantages of solid linings with half the work!

both stew mac and lmi refer to the linings in their pull down menus as kerfing. take it up with those guys and not on here.

there is always someone on here that has to be right and has an unpleasant way of showing us how right they are. this is precisely why i lost interest here. i thought things might improve when todd and padma left but i guess there is always going to be someone who takes that place.

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And Clay, I found out that if you don't want the Bondo to stick to certain parts, a little ear wax makes a great release agent.


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Anyone who's short of the above releasing agent can PM me.

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The name catgut is confusing. There are two explanations for the mix up.

Catgut is an abbreviation of the word cattle gut. Gut strings are made from sheep or goat intestines, in the past even from horse, mule or donkey intestines.

Otherwise it could be from the word kitgut or kitstring. Kit meant fiddle, not kitten.

Just remember, if you use that release agent, your guitar will no longer be vegan. . .

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Bryan Bear PMoMC

Take care of your feet, and your feet will take care of you.

Is there a reason why not put the back on first ? Then its easy to wipe of excess of the only bit visible ..

That's the way I do it.

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Steve Smith
"Music is what feelings sound like"

Yes -- in my view, the sound board cannot be properly tapped and voiced until it is secured to the rim. If the back is on first you loose this wide open opportunity. Plus if carefully planned you can apply glue and clamp in such away that there is little chance of making a mess. $.02

http://kennethmichaelguitars.com/gluing ... rsion.html

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Ken Cierp

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Different strokes, I suppose. I do final voicing with the box closed. Unlike Ken, however, I am not a pro.

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Steve Smith
"Music is what feelings sound like"

Well , By Cracky !!! I cut my saddle slots with a Weed eater and file my nut slots with a chainsaw! I DARE anyone to call me on this !

"banjos playing in background"

Bwaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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That's nothing, I can build an entire guitar with just a sharpened US Army mess kit spoon.


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That's nothing, I can build an entire guitar OUT OF a US Army mess kit spoon!

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Bryan Bear PMoMC

Take care of your feet, and your feet will take care of you.

Is that with a chainsaw?
Or are you a wimp and use a Swiss Arm knife?

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The name catgut is confusing. There are two explanations for the mix up.

Catgut is an abbreviation of the word cattle gut. Gut strings are made from sheep or goat intestines, in the past even from horse, mule or donkey intestines.

Otherwise it could be from the word kitgut or kitstring. Kit meant fiddle, not kitten.

Ok Bryan, you got me.


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I do it all with my bare hands. The hardest part is pulling the metal out into the strings.

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Bryan Bear PMoMC

Take care of your feet, and your feet will take care of you.

Broke more teeth than I care to remember knawing nut slots for the strings !

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The Shallower the depth of the stream , The Louder the Babble !
The Taking Of Offense Is the Life Course Of The Stupid One !
Wanna Leave a Better Planet for our Kids? How about Working on BETTER KIDS for our Planet !
Forgiveness is the ability to accept an apology that you will probably NEVER GET
The truth will set you free , But FIRST, it will probably Piss you Off !
Creativity is allowing yourself to make Mistakes, Art is knowing which ones to Keep !
The Saddest thing anyone can do , is push a Loyal Person to the point that they Dont Care Anymore
Never met a STRONG person who had an EASY past !
http://wiksnwudwerks.blogspot.com/
http://www.facebook.com/groups/GatewayA ... rAssembly/